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A caller named Milo says modern science is fundamentally corrupt because of capitalism — and honestly, we agree with a lot of what he's laying out. Paywalled research, the Tuskegee experiments, pharmaceutical companies prioritizing profit over marginalized communities... yeah, all of that sucks. But then it gets worse. What starts as a surprisingly agreeable call turns into a 45-minute deep dive into where the real blame actually lies. Forrest brings his firsthand experience as a working biologist — IRBs, ethics boards, peer review, the self-correcting nature of modern science — to explain why painting all of science with this broad brush just doesn't hold up. We dig into the dark history behind the polio vaccine, the reproducibility crisis where only 6 of 53 landmark cancer papers survived retesting, the massive shift to corporate-funded research around 1980, and whether religion deserves more blame than science for the systemic issues Milo keeps pointing out. And then John asks one simple question at the end of the call. Milo's answer changes everything — and exposes the single biggest hole in his entire argument. You're going to want to stick around for this one. 🔔 SUBSCRIBE and hit the notification bell so you never miss a debate: https://ge.hopp.to/SubToGe ▶️ Christian Claims Atheists Lack Morality And Gets DESTROYED 🤯 ft. Forrest Valkai: https://ge.hopp.to/AtheistsLackMoralitySupposedly ▶️ Gen-Z Creationist Caller Gets ABSOLUTELY Roasted 🔥 By Science: https://ge.hopp.to/GenZCreationistAbsolutelyRoasted ▶️ Christian Caller Claims the Bible Is History — Watch Atheists Debunk Every "Fact": https://ge.hopp.to/IsTheBibleAHistoryBook Follow me everywhere: 🐦 Threads: https://ge.hopp.to/GEOnThreads 📘 Facebook: https://ge.hopp.to/GEFacebook 💬 Discord: http://bit.ly/JoinGodlessDiscord #ProveUsWrong #ScienceDebate #Atheism Original Video: https://ge.hopp.to/Skeptalk12Jan2026 Get Jesus From Outerspace Audio Book: https://amzn.to/3EGj5Vb Daily Bible Podcast: https://ge.hopp.to/DailyBiblePodcast Chapters ====================================================== 00:00 - "Science Is Corrupt Because of Money" 02:00 - Where the Hosts Actually Agree with the Caller 06:27 - The Religion Question Nobody Expected 12:00 - The Dark Truth Behind the Polio Vaccine 17:51 - Only 6 of 53 Cancer Papers Survived This Test 24:00 - A Biologist Explains Why Science Still Works 31:00 - The Broad Brush Breaks the Argument 35:00 - "What's Your Solution, Milo?" 40:48 - One Simple Question Changes Everything Subscribe to this channel: https://ge.hopp.to/SubToGe Join the Skeptic Mafia: https://ge.hopp.to/JoinSkepticMafia Available Deals -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get the Tariff shirt: https://ge.hopp.to/DefineTariffTShirt I didn't vote for President Musk Shirt: https://ge.hopp.to/DidntVoteForPresidentMuskEitherShirt -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Merch -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download CHRESTUS: https://ge.hopp.to/CHRESTUS Get your "Citation Fucking Needed" Shirt: https://ge.hopp.to/citationfuckingneeded "got evidence?" shirt: https://ge.hopp.to/GotEvidenceShirt "btw, evolution is a fact" shirt: https://ge.hopp.to/BTWEvolutionIsAFact ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Discord Server: https://ge.hopp.to/JoinGEDiscord