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Thanks to Cozy Earth for sponsoring this episode. Go to cozyearth.com/LOVERS for up to 20% off! Sex Is a Skill. Beducated is where you learn it. Join the world's largest sex school and access 150+ courses for curious adults: https://beducate.me/lovers. — In this episode of Lovers, I sit down with Lisa Bilyeu to talk about a decision a lot of women think about… but don’t always say out loud: what if you don’t want kids? Lisa is an entrepreneur, co-founder of Quest Nutrition, and founder of Impact Theory Studios. She’s known for building billion-dollar businesses alongside her husband while also speaking openly about identity, marriage, and what it means to choose a life that actually fits you. Lisa built a life that looked like the dream. Marriage, stability, and the role she thought she was supposed to want. For a long time, she even stepped into the idea of being a traditional wife. But over time, something didn’t sit right. What happens when you realize the life you chose doesn’t actually fit you anymore? We talk about what it looked like for Lisa to tell her husband that she didn’t want children, how they navigated being in a marriage where one partner wants kids and the other doesn’t, and why choosing to be child-free doesn’t mean something is missing, broken, or selfish. This conversation challenges the idea that every woman is meant to become a mother, and unpacks the pressure many women feel around motherhood, marriage, and identity. We also explore what it means to redefine a successful relationship on your own terms, whether that includes children or not. If you’ve ever questioned whether motherhood is for you, wondered how to tell your partner you don’t want kids, or felt conflicted about choosing career, independence, or a different kind of life, this episode is for you. EXCLUSIVE LOVERS COMMUNITY RESOURCE Need help starting a difficult conversation? Access our guided journal inside the LOVERS community: → https://www.loversbyshan.com/resource/navigating-change-hard-conversations-in-relationships-community-exclusive CHAPTERS 00:00 Trailer 00:49 Pretalk 02:27 The Child-Free Debate 06:50 Podcast Starts 08:27 My Husband Is My Proudest Accomplishment 09:32 How Quest Nutrition Became a Billion-Dollar Empire 10:04 The Marriage Dream We’re All Sold 11:30 Next Week’s Episode 13:27 Being a Miserable Stay At Home Wife 15:41 How It All Started 16:59 It Was Good Until it Wasn't 17:58 The Question That Changed Everything: What Is My Purpose? 19:55 Living Only For His Happiness 21:57 Getting Back Into The Same Cycle 23:15 Building Radical Confidence 26:06 Telling Your Partner You Don't Want Kids 32:44 Why It Never Feels Enough 35:13 Beducated 36:51 Holding Two Conflicting Truths at Once 38:58 You Don’t Marry Who They Are, You Marry Who They’ll Become 41:13 Where to Find Lisa Bilyeu Follow Lisa Bilyeu → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisabilyeu/ → Watch & learn on Impact Theory: https://impacttheory.com/ → Explore her personal website: https://lisabilyeu.com/ → Listen to her podcast Women of Impact: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/women-of-impact/id1435217865 → Get her book Radical Confidence: https://radicalconfidence.com/ Want more Lover? Receive the weekly Love Letter → http://loversbyshan.com/newsletter Join the Lovers Community → https://www.loversbyshan.com/community Explore quizzes and worksheets → http://loversbyshan.com/quizzes ________________________ Advertising & Other Inquiries: team@loversbyshan.com